Very important Sublime related rumors:

[coha164]

There are only a few of us privy to what has been going on with the SWR rumors. so here are a few things people need to know:

There was some sort of incident that somehow went unreported at the show in Hawaii a few days ago. Fans from the show report that the band's finale was cancelled after a "go home Cheez" chant from the crowd was started by Bud after an argument backstage. For those of you who do not know "Cheez" is their tour manager and close personal friend of Rome.(also featured on What I Got live). Bud had been lobbying for new management for some time from what I understand.

Eric was put into a position to choose between Cheez and Bud.

Apparently there has been drug use again (other than cannabis) by at least 1 member of the band. There is a stipulation in their contracts against drug use specifically.

Supposedly Bud Gaugh will no longer be performing in Sublime With Rome, a new drummer who was never previously in the band will be announced soon.

With that being said, it is unclear whether or not the Nowell family would let them continue to use the name without Gaugh in the band.

[dj_carroll]

Damn I hadn't heard about this. What a shame too. Of course they'd never be the Brad-era Sublime, but Yours Truly wasn't half bad.

[coha164]

they got a show next week i wonder if matt from dh will fill in?

[OGMP760]

How you gonna hate on sum crap while in Hawaii? That must be a raging feud man! Any idea what triggered it all?

[coha164]

From what I understand, bud and cheez haven't been seeing eye to eye for a while.

[eZc]

that also muddies up the "LBDA Reunion" rumor too; unless that was more in reference to Ras 1 and Opie singing together in some form and not necessarily with the same guys backing them...guess time will tell.

[Michael]

I'm guessing Eric chose Cheez then?

[coha164]

Here is the first vid on youtube

http://youtu.be/u3v8ybtB7Ew

[BONG LEACH]

Its more than just Eric doing Meth or whuteva. Bud has been a bitch over a lot of things and no surprise Rome has an ego the size of all their fat bellies put together. They all shamed the sublime name. Thanks to cheese for the drug supply to Eric. So much for BRADS HOUSE you fucking piece of money grubbing asshole!


Ok. I meant to say HAPPY THANKSGIVING!


peace n Bacon grease
BONG LEACH

[SlyMinusRobbie]

Good riddance you pieces of shit! Long live LBDAS! And Bud better not think he's wanted in the AllStars...

[UMfan]

I said it before, and I'll say it again: Everyone in SWR has screwed up at one time or another. They all have dirty laundry to air. I've heard both sides of the story directly from the sources and I think it was a series of many things that went wrong. Everyone could have handled things better.

As far as the rumors of drug usage and whatnot, I don't think that's something I want to comment on, but let's just say I don't think it's all Cheez's fault. Just like I don't think it was all Bud's fault.

Bottom line, rather than worrying about the band name or what each member is going to do, maybe we should be most worried about the rumor that at least one member is struggling with addiction and may need some good thoughts/prayers/whatever to possibly save their life.

Right now, SWR is poised to continue on, though with a different drummer and perhaps a new name. We'll see how that goes, I won't bother with my opinion right now. I think the LBDAS rumors started before this SWR stuff came out, but honestly I don't see how LBDAS could even work right now. Bud and Eric probably can't work together until they sort this shit out. RAS-1 appears to be going through some personal stuff. And, I'm not sure how Miguel feels about Bud and Eric after all the SWR stuff (not to mention he's probably busy with Perro Bravo, right?)

I have no insider knowledge about the LBDAS rumors, I just don't think it makes sense at this point in time. I would guess maybe a few members talked about it and fans jumped on it, but I just can't see it working unless 2-3 of the original members were left out. (Maybe then it could be LBDAS with Rome )

[backdraft]

Postby 3rdndaisy » September 23rd, 2011, 2:09 pm
Im guessing this is in regards to the rumors that Bud is out of SWR? Havent seen anything myself but I have heard a little about this. Nothing has really been confirmed or denied.

3rdndaisy

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crazy how this was posted here back in sept and now this is all coming out????? seem's a little fishy to me??????

[coha164]

I don't know that he was ever really happy doing swr. There were rumblings going around months ago, but whatever they may be, i think its irrelevant personally, because they played a whole summer tour amongst the rumors. I also think the wife beating rumors are bs as well and have nothing to do with sublime. Im not claiming the dude to be a saint, but if your gonna manage sublime, knowing the track record, i think you better be ready for personality conflicts, egos, drug use, hussys, whatever. I do think the intentions were good, but there has been way too much deceit within key people in swr.

I wonder about this though. How can Eric Wilson's management expect to sell a product as sublime with 1 og member? There was and still is so much resistance to the reunion, now that bud is out of the fold, calling it sublime at all is an injustice to the product they are selling in my opinion and many others. I can't see the nowell family being ok with this knowing there is drug use as well. I could totally see the dub all stars name being revived at somepoint if the sublime name is out.

I hope their management at some "level" recognizes that there are drug issues that need to be immediately resolved. I don't want the scene to lose another legend.

[torres]

I am sooooo glad I got to see Bud, Eric, and Todd Foreman perform together at least 3 separate times just because deep down I knew this shit was bound to fall apart eventually.

[torres]

(Maybe then it could be LBDAS with Rome )

Rome should do his own thing at this point.

Also guys, the LBDA thing is all Opie and Jack starting it up. I don't think it has anything at all to do with Eric, Bud, and Rome. LBDA doesn't need Eric and Bud in it to be able to run.

[BONG LEACH]

All of it doesn't matter. What matters is that they are all men. Eric n bud know better. Don't make excuses for adults doing stupid things and playing on the whole brads house when hard drugs are being passed around. They had no right to act like they have. I've had other bands tell me how swr especially Rome diss them when they met. I'm talking about one of the most honest hardworking bands out there now in the scene.

Rome. Ok. Young and dumb. Bud n Eric. Hello they've been through it. So get your heads out of your asses and pay respect to the music, Brad and the Nowell family. They I'm SURE are heartbroken .....not. they already know how idiotic bud is. He always has been and always will.


That's it. The rest is private. Ans they can fuck themselves. )

[torres]

In other news, you can now pre-order Robbin' The Hood on vinyl!

http://sublimelbc.com/store/product/rob ... hood-vinyl

[UMfan]

Few things:

Backdraft: Yeah Bud has had moments where he wasn't really "into" SWR. But those rumors from a few months ago were all BS. The rumors I heard were that Bud was into drugs, hitting his wife, etc. From what I'm told, that's all BS.

Torres: Right on about getting the chance to see them. Bradley passed away when I was 15 and living in Michigan. I missed the chance to see Sublime. I was into other music when LBDA came out and I completely missed them. SWR was the only chance I have really had to see Bud and Eric perform together and I will remember the times I saw them very fondly.

Ant: Am I making excuses? Honest question, because I hope I don't come off that way. I am heartbroken that my idols continue to mess up their lives. You know I'm straight as an arrow when it comes to illegal things, and I try not to be preachy but I agree with you, it's frustrating and they have no one to blame but themselves. Having said that, I don't think drugs were "passed around". I think one person gave into the temptation. With Brad's House, I think it truly is something Bud wanted to do, but I think Bud is a slacker sometimes when it comes to stuff like that. A few years ago he asked if I could help with Del Mar and I was always asking him to update his websites and stuff and he never did. There is nothing devious about Brad's House. It was not an elaborate front to get people to accept SWR or anything. It was a good idea that Bud just never followed through with. If he had the focus to do it, it could still happen, but I won't hold my breath.

Not sure what to say about Rome. I guess a few people have had your experience with him Ant. Not sure why I'm any different, but he's always been cool with me. I told you before about my experience meeting him in November 2009 when he called me over to talk, and when he invited me on his bus after the show. This past August I was supposed to be on the VIP list but there was a communication problem and I was overlooked. I made a phone call and got in afterall. And after the show Rome and Rocky Rock came and got me and pulled me back to their bus. So I just don't know man, he's been cool with me. I know a few other people he's close to from his pre-SWR days and he still treats them the same. All I can say is that it sucks how he treated you, but he doesn't treat everyone like that. That's all I know.

[daley]

I know nothing of the actual situation or know any of these guys. But wasn't something like this expected at some point? I think it is great Bud & Eric have been able to play the size of shows Sublime was suppose to be playing before Brad's death and be able to get out there infront of a whole new generation of fans, but replacing the singer of a band like Sublime with a guy that slightly resembles Brad's voice was only going to last so long.

Nothing against Rome. I think he is living the dream of thousands of kids who grew up playing sublime on their guitars. But did anyone think SWR was going to be a lasting band? The pressure that dude must be under....I couldn't imagine.

As much as Bud and Eric were a part of Sublime's sound, anything without Brad himself is just a tribute. Especially even more so if Bud departs from playing with SWR. I was reading an interview with Miguel the other day about the recording of 40oz to Freedom and that Brad brought in the title track as well as Right Back in on the last day. I mean, come on who is going to replace that? I know know, I have heard the argument before "oh he isn't replacing him...." You can say that, but really looking at the situation....

I think maybe these guys were put on a pedestal that they cant stay on because a major part of the creative forces behind what they are trying to, I dont know... replicate? or keep alive, is not around. Maybe anyone falling back into old habits is only doing so out of that pressure? How many people are singing all the lyrics to the sublime songs at their shows vs. Panic or Take it or Leave it. Listening to them side by side it sounds like to different bands.

I dont know. Will anyone really be that worse off with SWR has played their last show?

On a side note about Rome blowing people off or their perceptions of him being a dick....I wouldn't take anyones opionon on it unless they have met him personally. There is this thing about bands and people wanting to associate themselves with guys in bands. Girls of course, but especially guys want to have this special attachment to guys in bands. Its weird. People for some reason think they need to be VIP or guest list or think people in bands need to be their best friend or something. And if the artist somehow doesn't meet this perception every time then they are some kind of asshole. Maybe they just didn't have the energy to be stoked you were around?

[BONG LEACH]

HA

yeah. I've been first hand and have been. I've got it all first hand. Trust that. No bullshit here. I just can't say whom